Keri and Carter chat with Paul Vander Klay. Paul is the pastor of Living Stones Christian Reformed Church in Sacramento, California. A couple of years ago he started a YouTube channel diving into the implications of the work of Jordan Peterson. Since then he’s been pastoring a following online of people who want to have substantive and honest conversations among all sorts of people about meaning and what matters to them.

You can follow Paul’s work on YouTube at:
https://www.youtube.com/paulvanderklay

And find him on Twitter at: @paulvanderlay

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About Deprogrammed
Hosted by former SJW Keri Smith, “Deprogrammed” is dedicated to unravelling Keri’s former ideology.

We’ll explore the philosophy, strategy, and tactics that intersectional ideologues use to program “Social Justice Warriors,” turning otherwise thoughtful, critically-minded individuals into armies of extreme leftist NPCs. Some episodes are interviews with special guests, and others are deep-dives into a different aspect of “social justice” culture, drawing both from Keri’s personal experience as well as current events.

YouTube link to video version of this episode:
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